Arrow: ...wait, wait, what? Arrow: Peter and Susan are gonna be in the third Narnia movie? Arrow: That makes no damn sense SpideyWing: Contractual obligations? Arrow: Unless the plot shifts back to Earth at some point to show their lives outside of Narnia Arrow breaks from homework to play some Portrait of Ruin Angel_Negr: Actually, they were in the book too. Arrow: They were? Arrow: I remember them being mentioned, but I didn't remember them actually appearing Angel_Negr: Mostly one line mentions, but given what we've seen of the promo shots/behind the scenes stuff, it looks to be more mentions than anything else. Angel_Negr: They don't have starring roles through out the majority of the movie. Angel_Negr: Susan was mentioned twice and Peter once in the book. Angel_Negr: The bit we see in the trailer seems to be more like the bit with Jadis, more of a nod to past times than any strong roles. Arrow: Okay, I can accept that no problem
...if not for the fact that when Aslan is on the beach with the really big tidal wave, there are four shadows and you can clearly see the one shadow belongs to Peter. :/
I guess we'll just have to wait until December to see. ;)
No, they make it to the very edge. Reepicheep is able to keep going, but Lucy, Ed and Eustace make it far enough in that they have a special talk with Aslan. That's the scene where Ed and Lucy learn that they can no longer return to Narnia, much like Peter and Susan were told in 'Prince Caspian'. That for them, the door to Aslan's country lay in their own world and that they had to find Aslan by his other name in their world.
Honestly, it never felt like that to me. Aslan always read as a Jesus allegory to me, and honestly, I much prefer Lewis' idea of Jesus/Aslan than most ideas of God that Christian religions try to sell.
So to me, all the books read 100% allegory to me, and so the major moments merely come off as a natural extension of that. And the talk with Lucy and Ed felt so reassuring to me. Yeah, they had to stop playing around in Narnia and living in the past, they had to grow up and find God on their own terms, not just have it all handed to them in a handy lion shaped package.
Now, the movies have toned down a lot of the book themes so far, so I can see why these moments would feel more like sledgehammers of MORALS, but they always felt fine to me when I read them in the books, especially because they didn't feel like 'or else' judgements. Like 'do this or else HELLFIRE YOU SINNERS'.
It looked to me like Caspian was in the boat so maybe it's his shadow? He wasn't with them at that point in the books, but that's not really a deterrant in this series...
I just think the actor that plays Peter is pretty, and so will not protest his involvement in a third movie, despite not quite being right with the books. :D
Just one answer.
Date: 2010-06-17 01:32 am (UTC)Arrow: Peter and Susan are gonna be in the third Narnia movie?
Arrow: That makes no damn sense
SpideyWing: Contractual obligations?
Arrow: Unless the plot shifts back to Earth at some point to show their lives outside of Narnia
Arrow breaks from homework to play some Portrait of Ruin
Angel_Negr: Actually, they were in the book too.
Arrow: They were?
Arrow: I remember them being mentioned, but I didn't remember them actually appearing
Angel_Negr: Mostly one line mentions, but given what we've seen of the promo shots/behind the scenes stuff, it looks to be more mentions than anything else.
Angel_Negr: They don't have starring roles through out the majority of the movie.
Angel_Negr: Susan was mentioned twice and Peter once in the book.
Angel_Negr: The bit we see in the trailer seems to be more like the bit with Jadis, more of a nod to past times than any strong roles.
Arrow: Okay, I can accept that no problem
Re: Just one answer.
Date: 2010-06-17 01:53 am (UTC)...if not for the fact that when Aslan is on the beach with the really big tidal wave, there are four shadows and you can clearly see the one shadow belongs to Peter. :/
I guess we'll just have to wait until December to see. ;)
Re: Just one answer.
Date: 2010-06-17 01:55 am (UTC)Re: Just one answer.
Date: 2010-06-17 01:57 am (UTC)*Jade hasn't read them in over six years so its entirely possible she's remembering it wrong*
Re: Just one answer.
Date: 2010-06-17 02:04 am (UTC)Re: Just one answer.
Date: 2010-06-17 02:07 am (UTC)Re: Just one answer.
Date: 2010-06-17 02:09 am (UTC)Actually, I should add that the scene of Eustace changing back from a dragon is pretty darn heavy in undertones too.
Re: Just one answer.
Date: 2010-06-17 02:15 am (UTC)Re: Just one answer.
Date: 2010-06-17 02:28 am (UTC)So to me, all the books read 100% allegory to me, and so the major moments merely come off as a natural extension of that. And the talk with Lucy and Ed felt so reassuring to me. Yeah, they had to stop playing around in Narnia and living in the past, they had to grow up and find God on their own terms, not just have it all handed to them in a handy lion shaped package.
Now, the movies have toned down a lot of the book themes so far, so I can see why these moments would feel more like sledgehammers of MORALS, but they always felt fine to me when I read them in the books, especially because they didn't feel like 'or else' judgements. Like 'do this or else HELLFIRE YOU SINNERS'.
Re: Just one answer.
Date: 2010-06-17 07:44 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2010-06-17 04:59 am (UTC)